Jaya says No!
Posted by cbernard on April 2, 2007
In this continuing series of Vote @ 18, I have put forward the government’s argument with respect to lowering the voting age. It is clearly evident that there’s no immediate plans to change the existing status quo.
Below is a parliamentary debate between Ms Sylvia Lim, Chairman of the Workers’ Party and NCMP for the 11th Parliament and Professor Jayakumar, Deputy Prime Minister,Co-ordinating Minister for National Security and Minister for Law.
I have already debunked some of the points raised by Prof. Jayakumar in my previoust post: I want to vote!
Ms Sylvia Lim:
Sir, the age of majority in Singapore is 21. Once a young person turns 21, parents cannot by law make decisions on his or her behalf. The 21-year-old can sign contracts and vote in a public election.
However, we require those under 21 to engage in some very serious undertakings already. Boys are enlisted into National Service at 18 years, required to carry weapons and may have to defend Singapore with their lives. If a young adult above 18 commits a capital crime, he will be hanged.
Thus, even within the Singapore context itself, there seems to be anomalies about whether we consider those between 18 and 21 years as adults or not. What have other countries done? Since World War II, the majority of countries have lowered their ages of majority and voting from 21 to 18. Even many Asian countries use 18 as the voting age, including China, India, Pakistan, Thailand and the Philippines. We are one of the remaining few using 21. Are our young people somehow less mature than their peers elsewhere?
In respect of voting, one compelling argument relates to compulsory military service. The United States went through this experience in the 1970s. Young men under 21 were drafted to fight in Vietnam. The public sentiment there was basically that if they were old enough to do that, they should be old enough to vote.
Sir, if young Singaporeans aged between 18 and 21 years are entitled to vote, I believe that this would have a tsunami effect in making them interested in national affairs which in turn will make our national debate more holistic and inclusive.
Prof. Jayakumar:
Let me touch on the points raised by Ms Sylvia Lim on the age of majority. Sir, the age of majority in Singapore is actually not defined by statute. It is defined by common law which sets it at 21 years.
Let me explain what is the legislative approach that we have taken in Singapore. We have, in our body of laws, different laws to prescribe different ages for qualifications, requirements, disqualifications for a whole host of different contexts, purposes, status or objectives, whether it is for driving licence or for voting in elections. This is because each activity calls for different considerations. For example, the law provides the age of 21 for qualification for membership of Parliament, for entering certain professions, like lawyers, public accountants, engineers or to be eligible to be a guarantor or to marry without parents’ consent or to make a valid will. These are some examples for the age of 21.
Then we have laws that prescribe the age of 18 to get a driving licence, to buy cigarettes or alcohol and so on. The point I want to make is that there is no single threshold age for all purposes. I guess it is because we cannot say adulthood is gained overnight on a fixed birthday, whether it is 21 or earlier. Rather it is attained through a gradual process. The approach that our laws have is a pragmatic one where there is a gradual increase in rights and responsibilities leading up to the age of 21, at which stage nearly all the limitations linked to age are removed. But this does not mean that everything is cast in stone and no aspect of this variegated approach will be ever reviewed. Whilst we have no immediate plans to reduce the age of majority, we are currently reviewing the matter for some specific areas impacting on our drive, for example, to create greater entrepreneurial skills and a risk taking approach, especially for our young. For example, the Government is looking into whether those who are at least 18 years of age can more freely enter into contracts, but this is just an example.
On voting age, we do not intend to change that. Sir, voting in parliamentary elections or voting in election for the Presidency is a very serious matter. It is a decision where voters choose their MP and choose, in turn, which political party or parties form the government to look after and run the country. In the case of elections for the elected President, voters will be deciding on which individual they will entrust to hold the office of President to exercise the custodial and veto powers set out in the Constitution.
Sir, if we set the age below 21, many would still be studying and, in the case of males, would still be doing National Service, or they would have just started work. The current age of 21 means that the voter would have finished National Service and many others would have had some working experience. I think they would then be in a better position to make careful assessments, considered judgments about the quality of the candidates and of other many national issues involved when it comes to forming a judgment and choice involved in casting votes.
Sir, I think our model of elections and government has worked well, and I see no pressing reason to change it including the age of voting. Yes, I note the experience in other countries, as pointed out by Ms Sylvia Lim. The practice varies and there are also examples of other countries which have kept to a higher age. Malaysia retains the age of 21. Japan has the age at 20.
Are you convinced by the government’s argument on this issue?
Personally, I am not.
What kind of twisted message is the government sending when they tell youths they are judged mature, responsible adults when they are enlisted in the military, but silly, brainless kids when they want to vote? Isn’t this double standard on the part of the government? Leaders who youths can’t vote for today may send them to war tomorrow. Lowering the voting age is the just, fair way to set things straight.
celluloidrealitys said
Firstly, military service does not equate to maturity. This is pretty evident. So that argument by Prof Jaya is moot.
If you are old enough to be sent to war, you are old enough to have a say in who should send you to war.There should not be two ways about it.
cbernard said
I think everyone play a part in pushing for a lowering of voting age.
We need to move this issue from the backburner to the forefront of public discourse.
We must constantly raise this issue. Rather than responding to issues that props up in the mainstream media, I believed the blogosphere and young bloogers in particular should rally behind this issue and champion for the eventual implementation of it.
The media also has a role to play in raising awareness to this issue.
We need more discourse on this issue. The government’s stand is essentially flawed and more need to be done.
Personally, I need some convincing to accept the government’s stand right now.
spouting madness said
I support that the age of majority should be lowered to 18 too. This is not a political issue, it is a social issue. PAP thinks anything raised by anyone other than them is politically motivated. just put PAP out of government lah
Perceiver said
People need to go NS first to have their NATIONAL EDUCATION before they are allowed out in the open to VOTE. And you know what it is all about. Untrained voters are dangerous, you know…
Singaporean Abroad said
Singaporeans are too immaure and stupid to have any say in the running of the country; all theya re required to do is live in far and vote for the PAP – then enjoy the HDB and hawker stalls and shut the hell up – and age is no barrier to a compliant mentality!
Sorry – the truth hurts!
cbernard said
Hey there.
Thank you for your respective comments. It’s intereting to read about them.
Lowering the Age of Majority would awaken youths’ apathy towards not just politics but also in areas such as social work, volunteerism, altruism and perhaps in future even philanthropy.
Essentially, youths will realise they have much to contribute to society and this will only translate into greater youth participantion in society. Thus, indeed it’s more of a political issue. Thus, I would urge the government to bring this debate out into the open.
The government have always been forward looking in its economic policies. It’s time to extend this aspect of governance into the political realm. It’s certainly more than politics.
I got to admit that the compliant mentality of Singaporeans is still there. However, from my experiences on the ground, it is slowly but surely opening up. And with the transition to the 3rd generation of voters at the next elections, it is now imperative to involve more people in the decision-making process. Since there is no such thing as a wrong vote, I guess it’s wrong to label Singaporeans as immature and stupid.
Gerald said
hi Bernard,
I fully agree with you. There is no reason not to reduce the voting age to 18, except that it may mean more votes for the opposition (although the IPS post-election survey found that young people are no more likely to vote opposition than older people).
India took a landmark decision to reduce voting age from 21 to 18 in the 1990s to involve a greater proportion of youths in decision making.
I’m perplexed at DPM Jaya’s argument that voting is a serious matter while implying that undergoing army training to kill people is not as serious. And since when do we emulate Malaysia? Another example of the PAP’s use of flawed logic to support their entrenched position.
You’re right that this issue should be brought to the forefront of public discourse. Keep on the pressure! I’ll write an article on this when I find the time.
Bernard said
Hello Gerald.
Thanks for visitng my blog. I thought it was seriously dead. ahaha..
Sorry no time to update. ahaha..
Cool.
10J said
I feel that one reason why the government is reluctant to lower the voting age to 18 is that they are afraid of “impulse-voting” behavior a.k.a. “immaturity” which unfortunately the governement, and even society as a whole seem to associate to youths. Not to sound stereotypical and all, but the general maturity level is still seems rather low amongst Singapore’s PAP babies(those born after PAP came into power)- more than half of the comments left here are in some way or another narrow and biased and serve more as PAP-bashing than really seriously considering the issue at hand.
“xxx is irrational -Don’t vote for PAP”
“xxx belittles NS – Don’t vote for PAP”
“xxx thinks we should follow Malaysia’s policies – Don’t vote for PAP”
I could be wrong, but if a person’s decision-making process is still only based on isolated incidents without due regard to the big picture, if judgement is always made based on one side of the story and emotions, I’d say that the person’s abiity to handle wisely the immense responsibilty of voting is in question.
By no means am I stating as a fact that majority of the youths of Singapore falls victim to the traits I’ve mentioned above, and yet I have to admit that I would not be surprised if one day, there exists a survey which proves so. Ugly incidents revolving around under 21s, from bus-driver punching to posting racist/elitist comments online to mass mailling all your superiors in the army tarnish the credibity and image of maturity that youths under the age of 21 claim to possess. No doubt these could be just isolated incidents, but it would hurt if youths under 21 really pull up their socks, show maturity and prove that society has judged them wrongly. Then, maybe then, the government can seriously reconsider lowering the voting age in Singapore.
By the way, just food for thought about Ms. Slyvia Lim’s point about Americans getting their voting rights at the age of 18 : at the age of 18, American citizens are already at their 2nd or 3rd year of studies in university, which happens to correspond to the age of 21 for females and those excluded from NS here in Singapore. NSmen get to vote even before they enter university. Perhaps it’s not so farfetched to link maturity to education, no?
Jam said
@10J
I wonder how appropriate (and mature) it is to use the comments left here as a sample size to accommodate for the rest of the youth society.
Pray tell, what ‘isolated incidents’ do you refer to? What ‘one side of the story and emotions’ are you talking about? If it’s anti-PAP sentiment that’s rousing amongst the youths (and most Singaporeans in general, regardless of age), then your claims can be said the same of the 43.92% of people who voted for the WP in the 2006 GE. And wow, what a surprise… they’re all above 21! D:
*rolls eyes*
Jam said
OH MAN. I closed using the wrong tag. DARN!
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Indiana said
To 10J…Americans at 18 are usually only in either their first year of college or are still in their last year of High School. And Americans can’t legally drink until 21.
So which would you prefer, to be able to drink, or to be able to vote?
Meiyi said
Sorry to say that 18 years old is the age where you just left high school not long ago and that is the time where most of us are still chasing our dreams and and very immature in our thinking. How can the government let a immature person vote for them when they themselves do not know what they want to do in life also and allowing them to vote may be the cause of them voting for the wrong government and end up causing the country to be in chaos later on when the wrong government is elected.